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	<description>and other rantings from a philosophically literate mathematician</description>
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		<title>Comment on Waste my blog by indir</title>
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		<dc:creator>indir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the best in the world this site</description>
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		<title>Comment on Comfort Kills by indir</title>
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		<dc:creator>indir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the best in the world this site</description>
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		<title>Comment on A philosophy-of-science proof of the afterlife by Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BURGER!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Mascagni&#8217;s widow by indir</title>
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		<dc:creator>indir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 09:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on A philosophy-of-science proof of the afterlife by mehdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mehdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that i was right
by the way Thanks for late saying welcome ;) i left islam about 7 years ago.
i haven&#039;t written any thing in that blog for 2 years. i just left the address to left a track.
Muslims and Jews despite their struggle have many bad similarities...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that i was right<br />
by the way Thanks for late saying welcome <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  i left islam about 7 years ago.<br />
i haven&#8217;t written any thing in that blog for 2 years. i just left the address to left a track.<br />
Muslims and Jews despite their struggle have many bad similarities&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A philosophy-of-science proof of the afterlife by mousomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mousomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed:
&quot;the verifiability of second proposition is depends on its truth so...&quot;

The first commandment of logic: thou shalt always remember Tarksi&#039;s Theorem. If the truth value of a proposition depended on it&#039;s verifiability, then... We got a liar paradox and we can prove anything!

I think this is the logical equivalent of division by zero: you can get numerous paradoxes and bogus proofs this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed:<br />
&#8220;the verifiability of second proposition is depends on its truth so&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The first commandment of logic: thou shalt always remember Tarksi&#8217;s Theorem. If the truth value of a proposition depended on it&#8217;s verifiability, then&#8230; We got a liar paradox and we can prove anything!</p>
<p>I think this is the logical equivalent of division by zero: you can get numerous paradoxes and bogus proofs this way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A philosophy-of-science proof of the afterlife by mehdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mehdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 the verifiability of second proposition is depends on its truth so it s not verifiable independently (the first unicorn which will be found  can tell us about its corn) 
2 however unverifiable proposition is not scientific but can be true (we can argue that weather truth is only scientific truth).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 the verifiability of second proposition is depends on its truth so it s not verifiable independently (the first unicorn which will be found  can tell us about its corn)<br />
2 however unverifiable proposition is not scientific but can be true (we can argue that weather truth is only scientific truth).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Brother, can you spare me a viable Economic Theory? by jikirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>jikirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;economists have to claim that fighting global warming is economically inviable. &quot;

The real reason why trying to reach action conclusions via model analysis in social sciences (and as an Economics student once upon a time , Economics is one of them ) is that your idea of what is possible and viable taints the model.
All models are simplified , had a model maker tried to simulate the agreements  reached in the eighties within the &quot;package deal&quot; , agreements between all parties in a market to share and act responsibly. 
Most critics would say &quot;hey , this violates the premise that anyone would do what is best for him !!! &quot;.
People are not mice (Malthus ) and  en lighted self interest can (hopefully) overcome blind short sighted interest.
I want to see an economic model that accepts the following :
1. some people would rather have less material things if it achieves a more comfortable social order (I would ).
2. People value a belief for a better quality of life for their decendents  (note : belief , not proof ) more then economic activities.
3. a possibility of a society valuing economic activity  less then stability and happiness.

All the above would cause an issue with a straight current economic model.
This simply reminds me of  a quote from Heinlein (paraphrased ):
&quot;The question of ecology is not how many mice can live in an ecology, but what is the quality of life of these mice&quot;.

The economic assumptions assume that when an expansion activity is possible it will be done ,  ever heard of self control ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;economists have to claim that fighting global warming is economically inviable. &#8221;</p>
<p>The real reason why trying to reach action conclusions via model analysis in social sciences (and as an Economics student once upon a time , Economics is one of them ) is that your idea of what is possible and viable taints the model.<br />
All models are simplified , had a model maker tried to simulate the agreements  reached in the eighties within the &#8220;package deal&#8221; , agreements between all parties in a market to share and act responsibly.<br />
Most critics would say &#8220;hey , this violates the premise that anyone would do what is best for him !!! &#8220;.<br />
People are not mice (Malthus ) and  en lighted self interest can (hopefully) overcome blind short sighted interest.<br />
I want to see an economic model that accepts the following :<br />
1. some people would rather have less material things if it achieves a more comfortable social order (I would ).<br />
2. People value a belief for a better quality of life for their decendents  (note : belief , not proof ) more then economic activities.<br />
3. a possibility of a society valuing economic activity  less then stability and happiness.</p>
<p>All the above would cause an issue with a straight current economic model.<br />
This simply reminds me of  a quote from Heinlein (paraphrased ):<br />
&#8220;The question of ecology is not how many mice can live in an ecology, but what is the quality of life of these mice&#8221;.</p>
<p>The economic assumptions assume that when an expansion activity is possible it will be done ,  ever heard of self control ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on More power can be much less by Tal galili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tal galili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.
Sweet analysis - thanks Omerus :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.<br />
Sweet analysis &#8211; thanks Omerus <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on and on to world domination! by mousomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mousomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... 
Having a reader write a comment on my blog is a cause for celebration. I&#039;ve uncorked a bottle of champagne. And then I read the comment.
So, should I welcome the new reader despite his lack of humor or sense? Or should I greet him happily?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;<br />
Having a reader write a comment on my blog is a cause for celebration. I&#8217;ve uncorked a bottle of champagne. And then I read the comment.<br />
So, should I welcome the new reader despite his lack of humor or sense? Or should I greet him happily?</p>
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